[GLUG-chat] Re: OT mp3 players for the car *flame*

[Alan McKinnon <alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Friday, 3 March 2006 06:20, Vivian Gervais wrote:
> I see its friday, so ok, i'll bite....
>
> This is a result of a too stressful day/workload.

Why are you flaming when stressed out? Haven't you learned yet that 
that usually bites you in the ass?

> It is meant to mean a ogg car audio player.
>
> My point exactly.
>
> now it wouldnt have taken a rocket scientist (unlike you) to figure
> out what i meant just by following the thread, the link also does
> correctly point to a GPS type system, which is installed in a car
> (wow) and also does play (can you believe it??) ogg's.

Hmmm, so now we are at the level of personal insults. See below for 
why that was not a good idea

> now to simplify (for the less intelligent)..... just like you can
> go buy a run of the mill JVC, or Panasonic (or whatever, hope you
> follow) frontloader cd/MP3 player, we should be able to buy a run
> of the mill JVC, or Panasonic (or whatever, hope you follow)
> frontloader cd/ogg player for the car.

If I remove the unwarranted sarcasm from this post I see you have 
asked a very normal question. Continue to the bottom to find out why 
you had me jumping through hoops to figure out what you were trying 
to say

> Please feel free to email me for further explanation if you feel
> overwhelmed. :P

No, I'm not overwhelmed and don't need anything explained. However, 
perhaps you do. From your mail's headers:

X-mailer: Foxmail 5.0 [en]

Your mail shows up in my inbox as an isolated mail, not part of any 
thread. So, I can't read the thread because I can't find it. I get 
300+ mails a day from many lists, I cannot be expected to keep track 
of all of them in my head with their subject lines. That's what 
message threading is for, it was specifically designed to handle this 
exact problem. But your mailer doesn't do it, there is no In-Reply-To 
header in your mails. So how can I be expected to read the thread if 
your mailer has broken the only mechanism I have to follow the 
thread?

Then you top-post. Now listen to me young man, and learn something. 
The reason why we are supposed to bottom-post is not so that old 
farts like me can be pedantic. It's because it works, it avoids 
flames like these and because it makes it possible for me to actually 
figure out what you are trying to communicate. The smartest technical 
brains on the internet figured this out 30 years ago. Trust me on 
this, you do NOT know better.

I need the bottom post convention because when I read your post I need 
the context refreshed. I need to do that because I have read 56 other 
mails between the last one on the thread and yours and the cache in 
my head has been flushed many times since. Top post in personal mails 
to your mates all you want, but this is a *public* mailing list and 
it (should be) archived so google can find it in the future. If you 
want to communicate something to me and the rest of the GLUG 
population, it is your responsibility to make sure you do it such 
that your communication is well-received on the other end. It's not 
my job to figure out what you are trying to say and the context in 
which you are saying it, it's your job to make yourself fully  
understandable.

You don't have a choice between top and bottom posting on a public 
Linux-related mailing list, just like you don't have a choice between 
driving on the left or right side of the road on the M1 through 
Joburg.

And please, for the love of god, use a *standards*compliant* mailer.

alan

>
> Have a lekker day.. its friday.............
>
> *also a top post*
>
>
>
>
>
> ======= At 2006-03-02, 22:25:25 you wrote: =======
>
> >On Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:20, Vivian Gervais wrote:
> >> Lo all
> >>
> >> When are they going to bring out a simple (run of the mill) ogg
> >> player for audio??
> >>
> >> http://www.crutchfield.com/S-B0HRny43HKh/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?i=
> >>550 IW500C2&search=550IW500C2
> >>
> >> There are alot of linux projects about that allow people to
> >> 'boot' linux & play ogg's from cd's & DVD's.
> >>
> >> Here's my christmas wish......
> >
> >Your point being what exactly?
> >
> >The link points to a GPS cum MP3 player, and you want an ogg
> >player??!!??
> >
> >A simple ogg player does exist. It's called amaroK
> >
> >--
> >Alan McKinnon
> >alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za
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> Vivian Gervais
> vgervais@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 2006-03-03
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