Re: GLUG: Mail Archive

[Paul Rahme <pgr@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Oskar

Firstly apologies about any misunderstandings on my/our side, this followed from
Morne trying to get the glug-experts@xxxxxxxxxxxx mailing list up, I'm not sure
if he spoke to you but he forwarded me a mail from Tony Wade stating the facts
about Qmail and that the linux/unix servers were changing, be it the servers
themselves or the software they were running I can't say for certain.

> That's just plain wrong. Sure, they are planning to move away from
> sendmail to Qmail, but I think Bernstein (if I remember correctly)
> will be a bit unhappy with you saying his program is MS solution
> stuff, mainly because of the implications that Qmail isn't secure.

Ok sorry if I was misguided, see above.

> IS have been running Microsoft stuff on the internal network for
> years now; nothing new there.

That much I know, when I left there mid-1997 they were already starting the
migration, but I was under the impression that it had practically all gone the
Microsoft way now.

> I don't see any one of Microsoft's current products supporting what
> they do with Sendmail.

Agreed, for one thing just not having the "sendmail" command for dynamic
website generation programs and other such things will pose a huge problem, let
alone the internal functionality.

> If it looks like Qmail isn't going to work out for running the
> list, there's almost certainly always going to be a sendmail /
> majordomo box somewhere on the network; failing that, I'll organise
> something else; perhaps a box on the network which they don't even
> have to look at.

Mike Smith has just mailed me saying if this does happen he can also probably
find a machine running sendmail/majordomo to do this on. I'm just not sure why
we didn't get this response when I asked Morne to look into it a couple of
months ago.

> The Glug side of the IS mail is maintained _only by me_. Don't
> blame anyone else for problems there; it's all done as a favour,
> and explicitly without any guarantee of support. All problems are
> specifically mine; I have to discover them and I normally have to
> fix them. If people mail me with their problems I can try and fix
> them sooner.

Thanks Oskar, there's another misunderstanding on my/our (probably just my)
side, I didn't know that you still maintain the GLUG side of IS, I thought
since you weren't physically at IS any more that we had no contact to the
server there.

> > so it's in a bit of a mess at the moment. We're trying to
> > make a plan to get the mailing list somewhere else.
> Nope; not going to happen.

Glad to hear that. :-)

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