RE: GLUG: Helix-gnome

[Paul Rahme <pgr@xxxxxxxxx>]

> Saw[mill|fish] is pretty minimalistic, which is just what I want in a WM
> (they should ONLY manage windows, dammit!) - also it shares the gnome/gtk+
> libs, I don't like wasting memeory (yes I know it's cheap now) on
> different libraries that do the same thing.  When the gdk-pixbuf/imlib2
> split happened, that pretty much pushed enlightenment out the window for
> me.  Also, enlightenment seems to be trying to become the Emacs of WMs.

I've been using sawmill + kfm for a while now and it's great, probably the 
most configurable window manager there is (hell, I can even tell it to not 
make XMMS sticky and to ignore the geometry hints of netscape windows!)...but 
the newer version (basically around the time it became sawfish) has a nasty 
bug, it's too clever for kfm's icons and uses them as windows, so raising & 
lowering windows rotates through the kfm icons on the desktop. So I'm still 
using sawmill 0.24.

> My only complaint about sawfish is that the config (if you go behind the
> scenes) is lisp.  I HATE lisp!!!  Oh well, nothing's perfect, I suppose.

There's another complaint I have, not so much the fact that it is lisp but 
more the fact that there's no help on any of the lisp scripting. I've managed 
to copy the pattern in the "menus.jl" file and change my root menu, but I 
can't make any other functions. However most of the other configuration has a 
nice gtk+ config program that does all window/binding/appearance/behaviour 
stuff...just no graphical menu editor or help on their lisp files.

-Paul

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